Will attempt magick; please advise

[Elystan]

So I've never actually gone in for a full blown magickal ritual before I've always trusted to my worldly powers to achieve the things I want in the world and confined my magickal researches to my inner mindscape.

However synchronicity afforded me a generous oppurtunity for spiritual elevation through earthly bliss recently and that very night I instead subjected myself to the lowliest degradation. It's churning up my insides and I want to rectify the mistake by any means at any cost. Maybe my magick won't work but I sure as hell want to try.

I have ingredients. I can use blood (my own), sex, I could even get maybe an acolyte or two. I could find places thick with ghosts to perform the ritual. Yes I am trying to get laid with this spell. Yes I do have a specific person in mind. Yes I know that's pathetic. Yes I am desperate. No I haven't ever used magick for personal gain before.

No half measures though please. Give me your most dangerous suggestions even if it costs me a piece of my soul. I am willing to do anything short of animal sacrifice. Any ideas? Thanks in advance.

[St. Everblaze the Badikal]

You'll come to find that it's less what you do and more how much you believe that it will happen, and how strong your will is. I'll preface this by saying that "pathetic and desperate" is indeed what it sounds like, and that many magicians view "get laid spells" as rape of the unknowing. This said, it might be a good starting point for your journey. We all start on silly pretenses.

 A simple sigil should suffice. Liber MMM or Liber Null have good guides on sigil crafting. You seem like you are wanting something heavier though, so I'll very hesitantly recommend looking into Goetic Sorcery or Crowley's material. You could also discuss your problem with Zalty, but I think he might just banish YOU with laughter.


 -'blaze

[Elystan]

You'll come to find that it's less what you do and more how much you believe that it will happen, and how strong your will is. I'll preface this by saying that "pathetic and desperate" is indeed what it sounds like, and that many magicians view "get laid spells" as rape of the unknowing. This said, it might be a good starting point for your journey. We all start on silly pretenses.

 A simple sigil should suffice. Liber MMM or Liber Null have good guides on sigil crafting. You seem like you are wanting something heavier though, so I'll very hesitantly recommend looking into Goetic Sorcery or Crowley's material. You could also discuss your problem with Zalty, but I think he might just banish YOU with laughter.


 -'blaze

This is all very good. The research I have done accords with what you say and in fact although the skeptical tendency in me dictates that I can only even concieve of the efficacy of magic (which I nevertheless do not deny) in terms of subjective changes to the psyche of the magician himself I still cannot help but wish to avoid doing anything which could even theoretically deny her free will. I am desperate enough to sacrifice of myself but not so morally inadequate as to commit an act of paranormal violence. In fact because of this consideration I do not in fact wish the object of my spell to be the ultimate fulfilment of my desire; I will take care of that myself or not at all. I only want to introduce myself and have her spare me some time. Sure most people do this by getting over it but I have my reasons for supposing that I will need magic to overcome the obstacles that I set for myself. And sigils don't feel convincing enough. I'm familiar with the theories but I need to be overcome by the magickal experience. Crowley and the goetia are all very well and good but I want to design a ceremony with a touch more Kaos. This is probably best done by myself, but I'm not actually creative.

Oh the lulz I swear the only person I'm trolling here is myself.

I'll need to do it at an auspicious time; I seem to recall the lesser key of solomon having a crude system for assigning times to astrological forces. Venus within Saturn would do nicely, though I'd be more convinced if the astrological calculations were more complex. It'd need to be an ausipicious place. I'm not that into graveyards but I could find castles or caves or stone age burial sites easily enough. I'll have to be intoxicated somehow, weed is no problem but I stronger hallucinogens are hard to come buy. 'cept that legal shit like fly agaric. There would have to be a ritual, I couldn't just go outside and hang out in castles getting high and actually expect it to have any kind of transformative effect.

[Karyakan]

Ohh you have no idea how effective a few minutes stumbling around a castle high can be, but I get the need for some kind of structure, I think we all needed that in the beginning before our stern and rigid minds became all deliciously squishy and liquid.
I would recommend , if you are sure you can commit yourself, to use an invocation ritual of a fitting entity or maybe an evocation if you know how barricade yourself with circles.
Letting other things do the stuff your to inexperienced to do works, of course this will truly be like throwing a 6 year old in the deep end, but it's your choice and having your mind scrounged up by (insert name of things that promises sex) will probably loosen you up to how easy thing like rules and regulations goes out the window when things go bad.
And if you don't want to "deny her free will" then ask it/she/he to amplify feelings/attraction for you that's already there.

And do try and have fun.   

[VERTIGO]

A simple sigil should suffice. Liber MMM or Liber Null have good guides on sigil crafting. You seem like you are wanting something heavier though, so I'll very hesitantly recommend looking into Goetic Sorcery or Crowley's material.

Shit man it's his first time doing serious ritual, goetia is a little too much for him...

[Elystan]

A simple sigil should suffice. Liber MMM or Liber Null have good guides on sigil crafting. You seem like you are wanting something heavier though, so I'll very hesitantly recommend looking into Goetic Sorcery or Crowley's material.

Shit man it's his first time doing serious ritual, goetia is a little too much for him...

Oh come on you're trying to encourage me there.

I don't particularly like the idea of getting an entity to do my dirty work for me, but it's true that for all my understanding of the theory of magick I'm still at a loss as to how to actually go about crafting a spell. This is too important to me to have some malevolent little imp fuck it up, maybe I could get to know my otherwordly business partner a little better before I trust it with something meaningful? On the other hand whether you believe me or not I have a tremendous capacity for absorbing and processing information (take that on good faith) and would happily mow through a few hundred pages of dense obscurities if that were to explain to me how to 'do it myself' rather than bargaining with goetia.

On the subject of goetia though, what's my source? The lesser key of solomon?

[VERTIGO]

yup,remember it's a grimoar so the infoes there are willingly incomplete and it's up to you to fill the gaps.
I won't recommend crowley either, he wrote various wrongthings on pourpouse on the symbolical side etc, with the idea that ifyou are"getting it" as a starting magus you'll identify his "errors"quickly and nothing bad would happen...

i'd recommend you to make a freeform ritual, probably Panic. Your symbology your energy your everything.
it's more work but it's 1) more satisfying 2) safer

my cup of tea.

[Elystan]

i'd recommend you to make a freeform ritual, probably Panic. Your symbology your energy your everything.
it's more work but it's 1) more satisfying 2) safer

I think I get what you mean by freeform but as mentioned above due to my lack of experience/creativity I'd probably be looking for some kind of structure just to blow my mind a little. Your capitalisation of Panic suggest that this is something I should have heard of, if so, link? Or do you mean literally focusing on and amplifying that emotion?

Shit if I'm going to be taking the chaos approach never mind the kaos approch I should probably have made it through liber null rather than stopping at liber al, brb.

[VERTIGO]

Panic: from pan, all.
It's magickal teather,basically, you solve a situation dramatizing it.
Search forthe works of Alejandro Jodorowsky.

[Elystan]

Well I can't read Spanish but I have enough to think about here, thanks. I'll come up with something, then tell you guys what I'm going to do, then I'll do it.

[VERTIGO]

those should be avaible in english too

[St. Everblaze the Badikal]

GLASYALABOLAS!

[Sheosyrath]

GLASYALABOLAS!

GLASSYLEGOLAS!!

anyways + good luck lol

[Elystan]

Okay so I absent mindedly fired a sigil the other day, and then something happened and... I don't think I want any demons to fuck with this /pussying out

[ZazzyE]

Demons?  That's one way to look at what we do.  But its a very limiting, maybe even ignorant view.